Publication of the Rockdale County Genealogical Society

                                                                                       May, 2005

                       May, 2005, Meeting

The Rockdale County Genealogical Society will meet on Sunday, May
15, 2005, at 3:00 P.M. at the Nancy Guinn Memorial Library, 864 Green
St, Conyers, Ga. We welcome and encourage visitors. There is no admission
fee but donations are accepted. For information call 770-760-9483.

Our speaker will be: Bertha Little, teacher of Georgia history retired
from DeKalb County Schools.  She has a Master of Education degree
from Mercer University and is a member of numerous genealogical societies,
including Rockdale Genealogical Society and East Georgia Genealogical

The subject of her presentation will be: “Overview of Indian Removal
from Georgia”.


                        Library Visitors Share Research Names

Yvonne Carr,, researching McKnight’s, Jim & Emma
from 1880 to 1890.

Roy & Donna Peek,, researching Rice, Trimble,
Peek, Jordan & Cooley.

Wm. B. McDaniel,, Conyers, Ga. researching McDaniel..

Linda Biggers-Mitchell, 2240 Carr Rd., Conyers, Ga. No names given.

Janice Brown, 4104 River Mist Ct., Lithonia, Ga. Reserching Hollingsworth

R. M. Manning, 39 Wolfcliff Rd., White, Ga. 30184, researching Winburn
and Manning.

Susan Hardie (Walker), No address. Researching Maddox, Chamblee, McDaniel,

Mildred M. Carey, 2560 Lake Capri Dr., Conyers, Ga. Researching Robert
and Albert C. McCord.

Richard T. Turk, Sr.,, researching Turk, Jordan,
Delong, Walker, Ash, Elliott of North Georgia.

Jack Eaves, No address given. Researching Helms, McGuire.

Barry Miller, ( Researching
Truckenmiller, DiValerio, DiPietrautonio.

Daniel Bass, P. O. Box 80096, Conyers, Ga. 30013. Researching the
war between the states.

Maxine Tomlinson, 4130 Haralson Mill Rd., Conyers, Ga. 30012, researching

Loren Collins, 2420 Old Covington Hwy., Conyers, Ga. 30012, researching
Plunkett, McCollum, Tucker.

                      National Archives Opens on Jonesboro Road

The relocation (from East Point) of the Southeastern Region National
Archives has been completed and it is open adjacent to the Georgia
State Archives at 5780 Jonesboro Road, Morrow, Ga.. This is near the
entrance of Clayton State College & State University.

Visit their web site
 Click here to go there

                       Programs Planned for Remainder of Year

June 12th – Gerre Byrd Various Ways to Solve Your Genealogical Problems
(and the “brick walls” I’ve torn down)

July 10th – SHERRY PIERCE Accidental Genealogy or “While I am looking,
they find ME!”

August 14th – SHOW OFF & SHARE DAY

September 11th – Ken Thomas Genealogical & Historical Columnist for
the AJC Unmarried Ancestors

October 9th – WALTER J. FREEMAN, PH.D. D N A


                 Classes Available for New Researchers

Classes in an “Introduction to Genealogy” will be held at the Nancy
Guinn Library in the conference room beginning in June and run for
six weeks each Tuesday from 11:00 a.m. to noon. The instruction will
include a field trip to the Georgia State Archives. Similar classes
will begin again in August, and October. Evening classes may be held
if there is enough demand.

There will be a charge of $3.00 for supplies to be used during the
course. Call the instructor, Gerre Byrd, to get your name on the list.
The number is: 770-760-1944.

                      Words and Names Origins Site
Where do words come from? Modern words often have roots in older words
from other languages. This site lets you delve into the history of
countless words and names so that you, too, can know that Alec Baldwin’s
name means “Bold Friend” There is no guarantee that your name is here;
but, who knows, you may find out that your name has some hidden meaning
that no has thought of. Go to this site:    Check it out

                  Noted Genealogist  Opens Web Site

Noted Genealogist, Jeannette Holland Austin, has placed Georgia information
on a new web site.  She has published over seventy books. The site
allows you to search for names before committing to a paid subscription.
I have posted my work of 40 years which includes many Georgia family
genealogies. The site also includes huge databases, such as wills,
marriages, obituaries, bible records, confederates, revolutionary
war pension abstracts, genealogies, notes of Jeannette Holland Austin
(professional genealogist), and much more.   Take a look

                     Scotland Sources Discussed

 Are there individual censuses for Scotland or are they included in
the Great Britain censuses? I would like to find a census just prior
to 1882 that includes Scotland. Thanks for any pointers on this topic.

I’m looking for Edward & Margaret Kavanaugh who had four children

born in Scotland before they emigrated to the US. Edward emigrated
in 1882 and Margaret and the children in 1884 -- this is according
to the 1900 US census.

Thanks,  Patricia

Hi Pat, Scotland is not part of England in the case of Birth, Marriage,
Death and Census. Your local Latter Day Saints Family History Center
( LDS FHC ) in your case, you need to know the area as well. You will
need to order the 1881 Census from them.

Scotlands People at has a lot of
information and the census is supposed to be on line some time soon.
Hope this helps some. Genealogically Yours, David

I wonder if you for anyone else knows if it’s possible to find out

about the birth of someone in Scotland in 1825 when you know the name
and birth date but have no idea where in Scotland that person was
born. Pat

Try the website They have birth records
online and I was able to find my half brother’s grandmother’s birth
info with just her name and date.
Happy hunting! Patricia

You have to hope like mad that they were Church of Scotland, AND that

the registers have survived. Only baptism records are available for
pre-1855 births, although some Ministers did include the DOB in the
entry. The other problem, of course, is that even if you find someone
who was baptised  very close to the DOB you have,
you need to prove that it’s your person,

and not someone else of the same name (things can get very confused
- my one-place-study includes 3 brothers who all baptized a son David
within a single month!). If they were non-conformist (anything over
the range from RC to Free Church), their records MAY have survived,
but they’ll be in the National Archives and not yet indexed or digitized.

If you have a name and age, and they lived that long, your best bet
may be the 1851 census - Scotlands people should have the whole thing
indexed sometime soon (they’ve been promising for 2 years). Bits of
it have been done by local FHSs, but if you have no idea where, you
really need a national level index. It’ll also help if you know the
names of all his/her children, in order, especially if a less common
forename turns up in the family.

You could always post the info you have on the person to soc.genealogy.britain
- someone may know. Lesley Robertson

The 1881 Census CD set includes Scotland. It’s only the LDS on-line
version that does not have it.

Thanks to those who replied. I was being quite dense when I wrote
this request.
I went to the site today and found the
information I was looking for. The 1881 census is up as are many marriage
and birth records. It is a very good site -- in my humble opinion.
Again, thanks. Patricia   See what Patricia is talking about

“Pat” <> wrote in message news:rYLmd.21333$
Try this site:
Marge       Try Marge's suggested site

               Cousin?  Who does it Mean?

In his 1694 will, Daniel Denn refers to Margaret Hancock as his cousin.
(Both Denn & Hancock were Quakers who lived in Salem, NJ). From other
evidence, it would seem that Daniel Denn was actually the Uncle of
Margaret Hancock (although it is possible that they were first cousins).
Has anyone ever seen a niece or a nephew referred to as a “cousin”
during that era? Would the term “cousin” have had a broad  enough
meaning then for it to have properly encompassed niece/ nephew? If
so, how common would it have been to call a niece or a  nephew a cousin?
- Jerry Ukes <

I don’t know about that era, but I personally call all family who
are not immediate family “cousins”! “Alan Jones” <>

I think Shakespeare takes a rather broad usage of the word ‘cousin.’
This was earlier, however, than the date in question.

In seventeenth century wills, one frequently finds the term cousin
applied to any relative who is not a brother or sister, son or daughter.
Thus, a man making his will in 1650, might call his grandchild “cousin”,
or he might use the term to refer to a nephew, niece, uncle, aunt
or any other close relative except blood brother, sister, son, or

Other terms which can cause confusion: A man was quite likely to call
a stepchild (that is, a child of his wife by a former marriage) “son-in-law”
and “daughter-in-law” in his will.

Brother - Sometimes it meant blood brother, sometimes step-brother,
sometimes brother-in law, and frequently “brother in the church” as
it is still used in some evangelical sects.

Mother and father might mean mother-in-law or father-in-law or might
even refer to a step-parent acquired through the remarriage of a parent.
Women referred to as Mrs. were not necessarily married. Mrs. was an
abbreviation for Mistress

In Colonial days, Mister (Mr.) was a title of respect given only to
those who held important civil office or were of gentle blood before
coming to America. If a man did not act in accordance with the dignity
of the title, “Mr.”, it was taken away from him, as some of the old
records show.

“Lisa Lepore” <>

              Youngster Wants to Sell Grandpa's Ghost

It’s not a Joke: Mary S., a seller on eBay, who has a cane and her
father’s ghost up for auction on eBay says, “My 5 year old son believes
the ghost of my father haunts our house (which was once my father’s
house) My son knows I sell on ebay and asked me to put my dad's ghost
up for auction. Since he wants to make sure someone gets the ghost
he wants me to put his cane up so he goes with it.”

There’s a whole lot more to this touching story. Read how important
it is for this 5 year-old to sell his Grandpa’s ghost on ebay.

Read about it at:
By Robert Ragan, Publisher: -Genealogy Facts & Family Tree Search
Go here to read the story

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JEANS & GENES is a publication of the Rockdale County Genealogical
% Nancy Guinn Library
864 Green St. SW
Conyers, Ga.  30012

President:  Bill Freese
V. President:  Martha Brown
Treasurer: Jackie Smith
Secretary: Bertha Little
Program Cochairmen: Sherry Pierce, Gerre Byrd,  Norma Owens
Membership Chairman:  Gerre Byrd
Publicity & Newsletter: Marion T. Farmer
                                    1500 A. Pine Log Rd NE
                                    Conyers, GA. 30012